Sunday, February 15, 2009

Feb. 15 with Drah Hard / Playskool Society

drah appears last in this clip

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Blogger stormko said...

Where's the rest of 1520 in the interview?

February 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM  
Blogger Quicky1508 said...

did drah say he was a freshenista? that tiight - i might just have to take that. Exceptionally great mix this time around Mane.

February 15, 2009 at 9:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

both boys were busy

it was the day after lovers rock

February 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM  
Blogger stormko said...

It would be hilarious if Anonymous (above) is Sake. Probably Mane, though.

February 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM  
Blogger stormko said...

I was thinking about the topic of the subculture of B-Boying and how it's not on the same level of what skateboarding has achieved (as brought up in the show).

The difference that is standing out to me at the moment is that skating has a physical object that is at the center of the activity. By nature, the whole scene can build an industry around the boards, themselves. And even if you are going to front, you can still buy a board. I'm sure millions of skateboards have been sold and have collected dust. B-Boying doesn't have that. You either do the activity with your body or you don't.

Other than jams and videos, there's nothing to build an industry around in B-Boying. Jams are too infrequent or too unfrequented, and videos are hard to sell because of YouTube. There's nothing physical like spray paint or turntables for even fronters to purchase. Why are fonters important? Because they help keep a scene afloat. Maybe I shouldn't even say "fonters" as much as "casual b-boys". You need casual b-boys that come in and out of the scene to fill in the gaps. Jams are supported, in part, by casual b-boys, who half of the time are the wall flowers.

B-Boying, out of the major Hip Hop activities, seems to be the one least designed for an industry. I think graffiti is the rawest of all the activities, but even it has an industry of paint, caps, books, and other items. B-Boying has jams, then what? Is anyone selling DVDs still? I don't know. Seems to me that a person's first instinct nowadays is to go to YouTube.

Why are there tens of millions of kids interested in skating, compared to probably only tens of thousands (hundreds max) in B-Boying? Is skating cooler? Why is skating even bigger than bikes? I can only think it's because any kid can get a board and think they are skating. Not every kid can do a B-boy move or even afford a freestyle bike.

I'm not saying this is the answer, but I thought I'd continue the conversation that was started in this week's "Super B-Beat Show". Maybe there's some people with interesting ideas of their own.

February 15, 2009 at 10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It would be hilarious if Anonymous (above) is Sake. Probably Mane, though."
hahah yeah it does sound like something sake would say!

As for the skateboard thing, I agree with you. There's nothing really marketable in breakin, as with skateboarding you can buy "skateboards." What do you mean by fonters??

During the Cros and Paulskee interview they talked about not putting out a bboy DVD for their event in 3 years because of Youtube and the INternet.


February 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM  
Blogger stormko said...

What I mean by "fronters" is the group of people in all activities that want to do that activity, but don't actually end up going through with it. Or, at least, they give up quickly. I'm not even judging that as much as mentioning the existence of it. We are ALL casual about something in our lives. That's why I said that I should probably just say "casual b-boys" or "casual...." [insert activity].

You have casual skaters who buy boards, ride them once or twice, and then that's it. But they bought the board. They probably even bought an issue of a skate magazine, watched some YouTube videos of skating, and bought "Skate" or "Tony Hawk" for their game console. They will never actually become skaters, but they will help support the industry of skating. In fact, I would gamble that there are more of those people than actual skaters, which is probably why skating is such a huge industry.

It's much harder to be a casual b-boy, or to put it another way, an "armchair b-boy", and have an industry. There's nothing for them to buy and still pretend they are b-boys. You can buy turntables, records, and/or Serato and never actually go through with DJing. It supported that industry, though. B-Boying doesn't seem to have that. It's too purely physical. I mean, that's cool, actually, but it's also a reason why it's harder to build an industry out of it...and maybe even build interest in it.

I'll have to check out the Cros/Paulskee show. I'm behind on them. iTunes, man. Need to be on iTunes.

February 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM  
Blogger stormko said...

both boys were busy

it was the day after lovers rock

I can't help but to ask: did DJ Mane One spin at Lover's Rock and still put out a "Super B-Beat Show" the next day by himself?

February 15, 2009 at 11:00 PM  
Blogger The Super B-beat Show said...

"I'm a famous artist....I'm a starving artist"...



"whoever these judges are, it's going to be their opinion...they could be a dancer, a construction worker, they could be your local principal..." hahahahahah

Ahhh man, nothing like SAL to give us some laughs

February 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM  

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